>> what time? >> 2:00 a.m. >> what a dad. >> you commute down from connecticut at 2:00 a.m. and you bring your daughter here? >> we do. a very simple ride. no cars. it's relaxed. it's great. >> 2:00 a.m. >> yeah, the only time you can speed. >> matt tyler is dad of the year. >> yes, i'm very lucky. >> we're lucky to have you here. thank you so much. thank you, todd. and what did you learn? >> the great crime of the century was committed, president obama mistaken jeffersons and sanford and sons coming up soon. >> you asked for it, you got it. what's going on? >> thank you guys for watching. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around, "the rundown" starts right now. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. developing first on "the rundown," all eyes on tropical storm erika. at least 12 people are dead in the caribbean island of dominica

after a storm triggered mudslides. that number is expected to rise. the main airport was damaged along with several bridges, roadways, homes and vehicles. right now, the center of erika is approaching the dominican republic, as several island countries brace for heavy rains, and florida is keeping an eye on erika as the cone of uncertainty grows. let's get right to bill karins. bill, where is the storm headed? >> it's headed for florida. that much we do know. what is going to be left by the time it gets to florida is more of the question. and the things look a lot better today for florida and the southeast coast than they did yesterday at this time because erika has chosen to move across the caribbean islands in the most difficult path possible. over the high mountainoffs the dominican republic today, haiti tonight, and possibly into western cuba tomorrow. all those mountains will tear the storm apart. it's already a very weak storm. there's a good chance today and tonight it will dissipate. here's the latest from the hurricane center. the 8:00 a.m. east coast

advisory. 50-mile-per-hour winds located just south of the eastern most tip of the dominican republic. now, as far as the radar goes, so far, puerto rico has fared very well, especially considering the foot of rain that fell in dominica. a lot of rain to the southeast side of the center. that spares puerto rico from anything too horrible from happening. we could get mudslides over the dominican republic which could be problematic. this is the latest forecast tracking the hurricane center. i think they have to shift this to the south once again. i think they're going to have it coming off the coast of haiti and over western cuba and then eventually heading up towards the florida straits. there's not a lot of time after it does that to get that much stronger. they do have it only as a tropical storm some time sunday might making landfall over south florida and then northward. such a weak storm, we wouldn't track a landfall anyways, and these winds at this time would be weaker. some of our computer models, obviously, florida is only about 100 miles from east to west. predicting it to geup the middle, it could shift to the

east coast or the west coast, and our computer models do that. they kind of split the difference there. that's why the hurricane centers in the middle. the bottom line is that i think there's about a 70% chance that erika will dissipate as we go through today and tonight. then the question on saturday, will it be able to restrengthen? if so, how much stronger can it get? at this point, it looks like more of a beneficial rain event for florida than anything else. i'm not expecting a devastating system, but we won't give up on it until it actually gets there. we have learned that lesson before. >> absolutely, we have. bill, thank you very much. we'll be bringing you update on the storms in next half hour. >> i would like to head to new orleans where another storm, a historic and devastating one is remembered today and through the weekend. in just a couple minutes, former president george b. bush is expected to speak at a new orleans charter school that was rebuilt after hurricane katrina. tomorrow marks the tenth anniversary of the hurricane which killed more than 1,800 people displaced an estimated

400,000, and drew attention to major problems in the crescent city. tremain lee is there. goom. >> how are you doing? >> good. things have changed but tn years ago, it was really, really bad. >> that's right. the residents in this city and city leadererize still trying to balance commemorating the recovery efforts ten years ago and all the pain and loss, but also some degree of celebration, how far this city has come. there's a new school system that some say doesn't benefit most of the students, but there's a new school system nonetheless. a beautiful new hospital. a number of restaurants and entrepreneurs have flooded the community to try to help some semblance of rebuilding. yet and still, when you think about all that pain ten years ago, so many people have yet to kind of cobble their lives back together. and so here we are ten years later, grappling with both this beautification of the city, the degree and semblance of gentrification, but also a city very much traumatized.

president george bush is expected to speak shortly. he was a key factor in the initial recovery efforts. much maligned figure those days. i think it's interesting he will be here. i wonder what his reflections will be ten years later. yesterday in his speech, president obama said if the initial storm and the devastation illustrated government's failure to protect people, then the recovery efforts speak to how government can work with the community on the state and local level. and so again, we have two very polarizing figures here. president obama yesterday, president george bush today. again, as you mentioned, ten years ago, this city, you think of how beautiful this city is, but how dark those days were. 80% of the city under water. so many people forced from their homes. to see this progress, some degree of progress, simply amazing, jose. >> thank you very much. we're going to head back to new orleans later this hour. be sure to keep it here throughout the weekend for full coverage of the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. >> as we wait to city former

president george w. bush, his brother jeb is holding his own event right now. the presidential candidate speaking at a town hall in virginia meeting with veterans there. good morning. what's the message jeb bush is going to try to get across today? >> morning, jose. it's a message that bush has been trying to push for the last several weeks, if not longer. one of the importance of veterans care. he's really trying to position himself as a key leader when it comes to foreign policy and when it comes to defense and the military. i want to share with you, this morning, before governor bush arrived at this town hall at this vfw, he went to a run. check out the picture he posted. he ran with a number of navy s.e.a.l.s, folks down here in norfolk, virginia. we expect to hear bush talk a little bit today on some of the themes heefrz s he's hit on be allowing more freedom of choice for veterans to see doctors,

female veterans and focusing on women in the military. additionally, we're expecting a special guest, you could say, jose. eric cantor, who formally has endorsed governor bush's run for the presidency here. cantor, as you know, is the house majority leader for a while in congress. a stunning defeat back in 2014. cantor will be here today. he's key, really, in the virginia business community, among republican donors. he doesn't have a ton of support among grassroots conservative activists. perhaps no surprise that cantor is supporting this establishment republican, jeb bush. jose. >> thank you very much. great seeing you. democrats gathering in minneapolis right now for their summer meeting. in less than two hours, the candidates running for president on the democratic ticket will take the stage. the stakes are high for hillary clinton, with speculation mounting that vice president joe biden could run for president. kristen welker is live in minneapolis. good morning. what are we expecting from hillary clinton today? >> well, jose, good morning to you.

secretary clinton's goal today is to convince top democrats that she's going to be the strongest candidate in a general election. a lot of folks here say they're still waiting for vice president joe biden who is still mulling a decision and back in d.c. in minneapolis today, secretary clinton's mission is clear. reassure the party faithful she can weather the political storm caused by her e-mails. her strategy thursday, go on the offense. take aim at republicans. >> extreme views about women we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states. >> republicans fired back, releasing this statement. for hillary clinton to equate her political opponents to terrorists is a new low for her flailing campaign. meanwhile, some top democrats say clinton should more

aggressively address nagging questions about her e-mails. >> the american people are concerned about this. even people who love hillary were concerned about it. >> overshadowing it all, the potential candidate who's not here, vice president joe biden, still weighing his options. but members of the draft biden super pac are here in force. >> there's 215,000 people who have signed a petition and would love to see him. the folks we have talked to here are excited for it. >> secretary clinton met with top democrats here last night. the latest poll eshow she's still the strong democratic front-runner, and in fact, vice president joe biden comes in third behind bernie sanders. if he does enter this race, he could have an uphill battle. hoedz jose. >> kristen, thank you. >> now to new developments in the live on tv murder of two young journalists in virginia. for the first time in this video provided to nbc news, we're getting an inside look at the killer's apartment, and also learning that vester flanagan's

initial plan may not have been to take his own life but to live a life on the run. stephanie gosk joins us in roanoke, out tside the station. good morning. >> vester flanagan was fired from his job here at wdbj about two years ago. from talking to employees and former employees, they were surprised at the time he stayed in roanoke and stayed in the apartment which is really just right across the street. and alison parker's father told us in an interview, when she got her job as a reporter here, some of her colleagues or soon to be colleagues warned her about that apartment complex, telling her that he was there and that he was just a little sketchy and to avoid him. what they didn't realize was how serious the threat was. >> the two blessings that we have today -- >> crowds gathered late thursday in the wake of wednesday's shocking murders. remembering the two lives lost. many rallying to reform gun

laws. an issue stressed by andy parker in the wake of his daughter alison's murder. >> how many times are we going to see an incident like this happen? you know, newtown, charleston, you know, the movie theaters. you name it. it's got to stop. >> meanwhile, a clearer picture of the shooter, vester lee flanagan, is starting to take shape. on thursday, authorities searched for evidence inside this apartment, where flanagan lived until yesterday. this video provided to nbc news shows a near empty interior aside from the refrigerator which flanagan covered in photos of himself. flanagan shot himself in his rental car. inside that vehicle, officers found six magazines of ammunition, a to-do list, and 17 stamped letters along with three license plates, a wig, sunglasses, and a shawl. thursday, wdbj's general manager gave details about flanagan's

incident-plagued time at the station. his manager said he generally showed poor news judgment. >> he confronted an anchor in the hallway. at that point, management made the determination it was the appropriate time to separate him from the company. >> according to court documents, following his termination, an altercation ensued, parts that were recorded by adam ward. flanagan insulted him and flipped the camera off. >> similar conflict existed more than a decade earlier at a local station in tallahassee, florida. >> i think he had a short fuse. >> including a female coworker claiming he physically confronted her for noting he made a mistake. >> he wanted to take it outside. i was stunned. >> he didn't handle constructive criticism well. it appeared to be personal for him, which it wasn't. >> meanwhile, the station has really reallied to stay on the air, jose, and they have been getting help. a reporter was sent in from their sister station in missouri

to be the investigative reporter on the story. the nbc affiliate which is normally their arch rival in town has told them anything they get, they will share with them. >> stephanie gosk, thank you very much. lots ahead on this friday edition of "the rundown." we're just getting word that rick scott has declared a state of emergency in the state of florida. all in preparation of tropical storm erika. as we have been reporting, we have two brothers, two live events within the same hour. just minutes from now, in new orleans, former president george w. bush will be live maik marking the tenth anniversary of katrina meanwhile, jeb bush holding avirginia. more on both events. >> first, donald trump proving to a crowd in south carolina yesterday that he's keeping it real. my colleagues on "morning joe" did a hair test of their own a few years ago. take a listen to their flashback from this morning. >> what were you checking for, lice? you don't have to -- look at

this. >> i'm sorry. anyhow, i don't think people want to see that. >> by the way, from 9:00 to 11:00, jose is going to be running that on a loop on "the rundown." >> interesting interview. >> instead of the hurricane. yeah, we're going to have that down there. >> we're not going to do that. >> oh, joe, you were correct. you know what? this gets me in the mood. after the break, victor, do me a favor. check my hairpiece. we'll be back. and i'm a box who thrives on the unexpected. ha-ha! shall we dine? [ chuckle ] you wouldn't expect an insurance company to show you their rates and their competitors' rates, but that's precisely what we do. going up! nope, coming down. and if you switch to progressive today, you could save an average of over 500 bucks. stop it. so call me today at the number below. or is it above? dismount! oh, and he sticks the landing! they don't worry if something's possible.

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mismothis morning, jeb bushn virginia, in a town hall meeting also to get the endorsement of eric cantor. the front-runner for the gop nomination is also back on the stump, donald trump campaigned thursday in south carolina and earlier this morning, he called

into "morning joe" and talked about his main rival. >> i have always assumed he was going tobe a primary competitor. and i guess that's why i'm hitting him harder than others. you know, i like him. he's a nice person. he's a low-energy person, no question about it. we need much more than a low-energy person right now to put this country back in shape. >> democrats are gathering in minneapolis for a three-day meeting of the dnc. we'll hear from most of their presidential candidates, including hillary clinton. someone noticeably absent, vice president joe biden. with me now to talk about most of this, chuck todd. good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> let's start with the republicans. who outside of jeb bush and his campaign might really be excited about the eric cantor endorsement, but although it does say a lot for those that are in the know. >> i have to say, at a time when you have the republican party base screaming for an outsider,

upset at washington elites, i don't know if i would be trumpeting an eric cantor endorsement if i was jeb bush, who is already being portrayed at the candidate of the insider, the candidates of the elites. here's a guy who he lost a republican primary in the very way jeb bush is losing right now. sort of the outside grassroots, so upset in the republican -- in the republican establishment. so upset at the republican establishment that they ousted cantor. look, i think eric cantor is helpful in fund-raising, a guy at a time was the -- one of the major architects of the revival of the republican party in virginia. a few years back. but i have to say, it's a bit of a head scratcher other than, look, every state caucus and primary matters. >> chuck, the only other aspect of that is that mr. cantor lost

because of his work on immigration reform. or his perceived support of immigration reform. and maybe there's a certain message saying even though you lose for it, i want to talk about this issue. i don't know. i'm thinking. >> no, no doubt that that's obviously jeb bush is not going to back down on his immigration stance on that front. everybody created an interpretation in their own ways. he represented the establishment, he represented going washington. when you look at where the electorate is today, and the anxiousness that's there, the fact they're uncomfortable with the insiders, they're searching for outsiders, i don't know if i would be doubling down on an insider publicly. i am not saying he can't help you with fund-raising, do you

want him in a public role? do you want to send the message? right now, you're talking to grassroots activists. is that a helpful thing in virginia right now? look, again, this is no disrespect to eric cantor, but i think the message that it sends to some in the party isn't going to be a positive one. >> meantime, chuck, a new report from bloomberg's mark halpern that hillary clinton's campaign is telling democrats she has about one fifth of the delegates sewed up. >> this is the so-called super delegates. if you followed the 2008 campaign between obama and clinton, whoever is winning in the prielary, the super delegates gravitate to. hillary clinton is winning, there's no doubt she's secured a big chunk of super delegates in her favor. now, the party rules, they have ratcheted back the number of super delegates now, but when you have a big chunk of them, like an establishment candidate like hillary clinton does, it's a reminder and a message sender by the way, to joe biden. this is not going to be easy for

you to capture this nomination. >> what do you have? >> we have a sit-down with scott walker. he's had a tough august. this was a guy that a lot of republicans thought would be the voice of the outsider against the establishment in jeb bush. he's sot of lost that a little bit. we're going to go down the foreign policy lane with him a lit. the whole show, we'll look at two big stories. obviously what's going on in minneapolis with the democrats, but how donald trump has gotten into the heads of so many of these candidates, whether it's scott walker or jeb bush. it's clear he is in their heads. >> and you know, chuck, we're going to get rained on this weekend, your hometown. looks like a rain event. >> i'm so glad to see that the models are so, so weak. >> slow down and keep monitoring. you being a miami guy, you know that these things shift and all of a sudden you get the worst. >> i looked at this track earlier. i looked at it and i had way too many andrew flashbacks. so i was -- >> me, too. >> glad to see it go over the

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a live look now at the new york stock exchange. execs from td ameritrade are there ringing the opening bell. we're expecting stocks to drop quickly at the open, capping off one of the most, wow, tumultuous weeks in years. we'll have much more on the market later on. the dow jones down about 40 points as we begin the morning's trade. it's been ten years since hurricane katrina destroyed thousands of homes and took nearly 2,000 lives. the images broadcast on tvs around the world were unlike anything more piece had ever seen before in the united states. residents stranded on rooftops, people dying in flooded streets. by next guest was there on the ground in the days and weeks after the historic storm. joining me now, journalist and

founder of starfish media group, sol ad soledad o'brien. >> thank you. >> give us a sense of what it was like for you after the storm. >> it was completely chaotic. i remember people were pushing sometimes just their possessions or their children in shopper carts they had grabbed. in some areas, you're looking at pictures from st. bernard parish where the storm surge wiped homes off their foundations. it was more than 22 feet in that area. it was sort of like blown off -- complete chaos. people were trying to get out of the city, sometimes asking us, where can i find a bus to get me out of here? then you just had a sense that the officials were completely clueless. i remember the fema, you know, would tell us, well, there are supplies coming up, but there were people desperately in need of food and water and just some kind of help. no one was really able to bring them, no one official, was able to bring them in any real supplies. i think the overwhelming sense

was, this is a major metropolitan area. where's the help? i had a guy, a military guy telling me, he started to cry when he would recount helping people evacuate the superdome. he said, i can't believe this is america. i cannot believe this is happening here. i think that was a sense for a lot of people. >> doesn't it seem to you as though there was this compete and total lack of ability to communicate between officials? local, state, federal. >> absolutely. >> if you're not talking to each other, there's no way to coordinate. >> they could not agree. i remember feeling we had much more information as we were doing reporting than they were getting. i mean, we would do live shots with, you know, people who nationally guardsmen at the convention center. and then you would talk to executives and officials and they would say, we just found out there are people at the convention center wr you're like, right, we have been interviewing people there all morning. what are you doing? they were very -- the coordination was a mess.

>> yeah, then the pictures of the school buses, the yellow school buses, just bus after bus after bus that could have been used by local officials to get people out, and they were never used. >> so many bad decisions made. so many levels. it was really just a federal mess, a local mess. i mean, i think you look back and there was so much blame to go around. that it was just -- it was crazy. >> you were just back in new orleans earlier this summer. tell me what you saw compared to 2005. >> i go a lot. i spend a lot of time in new orleans. i'll be there tomorrow doing some of these events that commemorate the tenth anniversary. it's a tale of two cities now. at one point, 80% of the city was under water and that's been resolved clearly. some parts of the city look amazing. depending on where you're standing, the city can look great. certainly, the french quarter, all the areas where the tourists go and some of the better off neighborhoods look really terrific, but i think as not a

surprise that there are many areas that struggled a lot that have not come back. even new orleans east, which had a very mixed community. there were wealthy people in new orleans east and people who were working class, some poor people in new orleans east, that's struggled to come back. business has not come back in there. there are many that think that many people in poverty have been moved out to the east, and of course, that's correlated to race. so i think there's some big challenges there as well. it's definitely a tale of two cities, if you had money before the storm, you're much more likely to have done well. people in poverty are still struggling today. >> soledad o'brien, thank you for being with me. >> my pleasure. >> we'll have much more on the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina throughout today's edition of "the rundown," throughout msnbc, and throughout the weekend. joining me here in the bureau is msnbc contributor and washington editor at large for there atlantic. you were in new orleans. >> we had a big conference on

the tenths tth anniversary lookt what could be done if a storm came down the pike now. >> you were hearing soledad. it seems like nobody had their act together. nobody. >> people weren't communicating. i interviewed the administrator of fema, craig fugate at this conference we had. one of the major differences that has changed is that local governments no longer need to be the ones that trigger federal action. because as you remember and as you said, one of the great disasters that happened is people mobilized, resources mobilized too late because local and state authorities failed to move. early enough to sort of move those federal resources to help. and that was one of the big failures that's now been corrected. >> interesting. we're just seeing that this tropical storm erika could be hitting florida over the weekend. the governor already declared every single county in florida a state of emergency. that's a state responsibility. >> so they're moving.

they're moving transportation resources. >> there's local responsibility and federal responsibility. >> your comment about communications is important. when you come in, it's a little wonky, but the rockefeller foundation is using new orleans as a test case to look at how do you invest in real resilience and institutions that rise to the challenge at the right time? and that's what a lot of this week is about in new orleans. it's not just taking a look ban. it's looking back and saying do we have institutions, do we have behaviors and habits that have changed, just like what you're talkth about in florida. when mayor landrieu is there and the governor, are they coordinated and speaking? are federal departments coming together and looking at transportation routes, and not looking at who can -- who the richest and -- i tell you one of the things i found that was disruptive is the white community down in new orleans largely thinks new orleans is fixed. if you go to the black community, in louisiana state university just released data on that, they don't see new orleans has fixed, and they see their

situation as worse off than it was before. you have a bifurcated perspective on katrina. it's not a healed place, but you have a lot of people beginning to look at what do you do in getting the institutions to work together in ways they were completely derelict in katrina. >> we can blame local, we can blame the state. there's no doubt about it, the lack of professionalism in the federal government's key people and key institutions, that didn't play an important role, and even sort of said, if you're not doing it, we're doing it. now george w. bush is returning to new orleans ten years later. talk to me about how that is. >> you know, he is obviously a spark plug for the area. there are a lot of people who blame the bush administration and its failure to perform for the problems at katrina, right or wrong. that's their perception. mitch landrieu, the mayor of new orleans, was asked about this at our conference. he said, look, it's time for us to be magnanimous and gracious. the bush administration did a great deal for the new orleans,

the broader area and region, that should be remembered and celebrated, and made part of the picture. it wasn't just the storm. it wasn't just michael brown who was the director of fema under george bush that we should focus our attentions on. it's on these other issues. so landrieu came out with a message of magnanimity to bush, and he said he wanted obama and bush and was grateful that the invitation was accepted. >> i want to have you, and we'll discuss george w. bush's words and speech. we'll stand by to watch in new orleans when the former president begins to speak. we're watching another developing story right now in new hampshire. jury deliberations are under way in the prep school rape trial. owen labrie is accused of raping a 15 yier-year-old girl last ye the st. paul school. he's pleaded not guilty to all charges. gabe gutierrez is live in concord, new hampshire. good morning. >> hi, jose, gom.

the cameras are behind me, waiting for the verdict. the media is waiting. the prosecution is waiting. so is the defense. this case is really brought national scrutiny to the issue of sexual assault in high schools, a topic many advocates say is not discussed enough. a jury of nine men and three women is deciding whether this encounter between two teenagers amounted to rape at one of the nation's most elite schools. prosecutors say owen labrie sexually assaulted that then-15-year-old girl at st. paul's campus just days before graduation as part of a school ritual known as the senior salute where older students asked out younger ones just before graduation, sometimes for sex. the defense pleaded not guilty and said this encounter was consensual, and stopped short of intercourse. it's been a very emotional trial. right now, that jury is deliberating. they have been since yesterday. spent three and a half hours yesterday and got here around 9:00 a.m. this morning. right now, everybody is waiting

to see what the jury decides, jose. >> and gabe, no real idea how long these deliberations could take. >> that's exactly right, jose. it's very tough to predict what any jury is deliberating right now or what the outcome of the case may be. owen labrie faces nine counts, three that are most serious are these felony sexual assault counts. faces three of those charges. he faces up to 20 year in prison for each of those counts. the stakes are very high here, not just for owen labrie but also for st. paul's school, which is one of the nation's most elite boarding schools, and the defense has during closing arguments yesterday, high-profile defense attorney jay carney really slammed the culture at the school, saying in part that the senior salute tradition was in part to blame for this. the prosecution is making that argument all along. however, the defense is arguing not to blame owen labrie for this but the culture at st. paul school was at least partly to blame. a lot of people watching us,

school is, you know, owen labrie is on trial, and also the family is looking at this very closely. they have been through a very difficult year and a half, and they're just waiting to see how this case will turn out, jose. >> gabe gutears, thank you very much. we'll keep updating you on the story as it develops. now to an nbc exclusive in the investigation into the deadly shootings of two young journalists from verge virn. in this video, we're getting our first look inside the apartment of gunman vester lee flanagan. it's, well, furnished sparshly and includes pictures of himself on the refrigerator. in a highly emotional plea, the father of alison parker is promising to keep his daughter's memory alive. >> my heart is broken. i can only take solace in the fact that she was 24, but she lived a great 24. she had the love of her life with chris hurst. and she loved her family so

much. and she was loved by everyone. my grief, it's turned to anger because, you know, how many times are we going to see an incident like this happen? you know, newtown, charleston, the movie theaters. you name it. it's got to stop. and i'm not going to stop until something happens, because i don't want to see another alison tragedy like this again. >> hundreds gathered last night outside roanoke tv station wdbj for a candlelight vigil to remember alison parker and adam ward. funeral for ward is planned for next tuesday.

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effect over the weekend. a tropical storm warning is in effect for seven caribbean nations. the island of commin caw continues to recover from the storm's impact overnight which left 12 people dead there. janet shamlian is in puerto rico with the latest. janet, good morning. >> jose, good morning to you. it's been a devastating 24 hours for the tiny island nation of dominica. officials confirmed 12 people now dead, but local media reporting the number may be as high as 25. after tropical storm erika triggered floods and mudslides that devastated that small island nation. and searchers at this hour still can't get to some of the hardest hit areas. buildings washed away, cars floating in the floodwaters, and the airport inundated with water, small planes floating on the tarmac. as tropical storm erika moves through puerto rico and the virgin islands, we're getting

rain, but not as much as they expected. reports of some damage on the south side of the island where power outages are common and trees are down, but for the most part, this has been a rainmaker to a smaller extent than they expected as this storm gets more disorganized. back to you. >> janet, thank you very much. we will continue to monitor tropical storm erika throughout the day here. but breaking news on the american teen who pled guilty to supporting isis. pete williams is live outside the federal courthouse. what's the latest? >> well, good morning, jose. the federal judge has just sentenced the man to 11 years and four months in prison. this is significant for a couple of reasons. first of all, he's the youngest person in the united states ever sentenced to prison for supporting the terror group isis. the maximum sentence here under federal law would have been 15 years. his lawyers asked for a sentence of just over six, but the judge

sentenced him to 11 years and 4 months saying he shouldn't get the maximum because of his young age. he was just 17. today, he's just shy of his 18th birthday. the fact that he had no prior criminal record. now, his lawyer had said that the sentence should be much shorter. that in spite of the fact he did plead guilty to helping a high school classmeate get to syria o join isis, he has since renounced it. he has helped the fbi understand what he did. he met for 30 hours with federal investigators to explain to them what he did and the overseas network. nonetheless, the government said he did in essence sentence this classmate to death because he's probably going to die overseas fighting for isis, the government says. of course, he's done a great damage to his own family and the family of his classmate who went to syria. the judge recommended that he be sent to a federal medical prison. he has a number of medical issues. but that's not binding on the federal government. so this is -- this is what the

government asked for. they asked for a harsh sentence which would send a message that anyone who assists isis will get in the words of the government a crushing sentence. so that's pretty much what this is for amine, here from the washington metropolitan area. from manassas, virginia. he was arrested for helping this classmate get to syria. the government said he admitted in june during his court appearance in june, admitted driving this young man to the airport to dulles airport in january, and giving him tips along the way for people to meet overseas to get him into syria. so a long sentence, 11 years and 4 months, jose. >> pete williams, thank you very much. also developing now overseas, learning new details about a humanitarian crisis unfolding throughout europe for some time now, but there's an update on one specific issue. police in austria investigating the deaths of 71 migrants whose bodies were found in the back of the truck you see abandoned on

the highway. 71 people. police say some of the dead were likely refugees fleeing the violence in syria. a nation plagued by both civil war and isis terrorists. ron allen is monitoring the story from london for violence in syria. ron, what's the very latest? >> reporter: you're right, jose, 71 people believed to be migrants from syria, perhaps. part of a wave that's been sweeping across europe for the past few months, fleeing wars in europe, afghanistan, poverty, trying to get to europe where it's much safer, of course. they've been overwhelming these countries coming from the south to austria, greece, turkey, fleeing countries like germany. in that truck were four young children. they were believed to be transported from the country by smugglers and police have made three arrests. the drivers of the truck, perhaps, but low level people in what is believed to be part of an extensive human smuggling

ring, many smugglers bringing these people, preying on these people as they try to get through europe to safer places. the investigation continues, and this particular incident is really focusing the world's attention on this migrant problem that's been sweeping across europe now for quite some time. separately, there are also people trying to cross the mediterranean sea, and there is a rescue operation going on there now. there are some 200 people who are missing and as many as 200 are dead from one boat. >> this is in austria, and imagine what's been happening in italy and greece where literally thousands of people have been coming on shore, not only fleeing syria but also libya, which is a disaster. ron allen, thank you very much for being with me from london. good to see you. coming up, president george w. bush speaks in new orleans marking ten years after hurricane katrina. we'll take you there live when we come back.

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moment now at the warren charter school which was rebuilt after katrina. joining me now is former mayor of new orleans and national urban league president and ceo, mark morrell. mark, great seeing you. >> hey, jose. good to talk to you. good morning. >> good morning. what does it mean for you to see how things have progressed over these last 10 years? and let's talk about former president bush in new orleans 10 years later. >> former president bush, former president clinton, president obama are all here. i think that's an indication of how significant an event katrina was in american history and how, to some extent, jose, the rebuilding effort has been difficult at times but with tremendous progress, but a long way to go. and i think that what new

orleanians should note is we had part disaster, part manmade, and now we have a recovery building effort that i think is at half time, meaning there have been some significant changes. 38 new schools, many houses and businesses rebuilt, but with many neighborhoods still with so much work to do, with many neighborhoods that have been somewhat left behind by the first half of the recovery. so there is a lot more to do here in new orleans, and this is, really, i think an example of the perseverance and the spirit of the people of this city who fought to rebuild this very special american place. >> it is a special american place, mark, and the urban league of greater new orleans just released a report this week. the local paper described it this way, quote, a mostly damning assessment of the recovery of new orleans' african-american community 10 years after the levees failed.

what's the biggest takeaway from this report for you? >> i think the biggest takeaway from this report is that number one, in the beginning, many efforts to recover were intentional or negligently leaving neighborhoods and people behind. and that at year 10, it's important to recognize that african-americans, historic african-american neighborhoods, need focus, need attention in the second half of this rebuilding effort. the report that our affiliate here in new orleans has released tells the story with facts, jose, not with stories but, indeed, with facts. and i hope that what the report is is a barometer, or not a barometer, but a compass that points to what needs to be done in the next three, five to ten years. >> and mark, it seems like, and we've been talking to steve clemens about this this morning -- it seems like when you look back 10 years ago, everybody, all the politicians,

all the officials, all the infrastructure, local, state and even federal, dropped the ball on it. look, last night i was watching my local mayor in miami on spanish language tv and english language tv, and he was saying, guys, if you're asked to move, move, because once any storm hits at 45 miles an hour or more, we're not going to be able to get you. it just seems as though no one cared to deal and talk with the people that were probably going to be the most affected and the ones least able to move. why did no one care? >> jose, i'm glad you raised what's happening in florida, and i want to encourage people in florida to be vigilant, and if you are told to evacuate, try to evacuate, but i think that every elected official in the threatened area, the emergency responders should be thinking about what we're going to do for those that are vulnerable, for the elderly, for those that are of low income, to those that may

be disabled, to those in nursing homes and hospitals. and you're right, the ball was dropped across the board 10 years ago. and that has to never, ever happen to any other community again. >> mark morial, thank you. always great to see you, my friend. can you stay with me throughout the remainder of this broadcast, because i'd like to continue to have your thoughts and observations. >> let's see if we can do it. >> thanks so much. mark was talking about the importance of being aware of a possible storm. we're tracking developments with tropical storm erika here on msnbc. a state of emergency has been declared throughout the entire state. he'll be holding a briefing in half an hour. right now a tropical storm warning is in effect for seven caribbean nations. seven people were killed in the island of dominica. let's get the latest from

meteorologist bill karas. bill, i'm so worried about haiti and the dominican republic, but there are big mountain ranges in that dominican republic that could contribute to slowing this thing down, right? >> it could tear it apart, but in the process of tearing it apart, it could bring that country some mudslides and horrible weather conditions, and you don't wish that on anyone even though it could benefit us here in the southwestern united states. i'll show you the new path and the new intensity forecast from that. the storm itself is going south more than expected pretty much over 24 to 48 hours. that is going to take the storm over the central portion of the island of hispaniola. it's picking up this huge big piece of paper in front of a fan and blocking all the winds. it just disrupts the circulation and that's why we think this will get weaker than it is. it could even dissipate later on tonight. as far as the rain goes, puerto

rico has been spared, especially with what happened in the island of dominica with 12 inches of rain. on saturday, here is the question. where does it come off the coast of haiti? is it over cuba or north of cuba? it makes a big difference. the latest trend is south of this line. this is the old line of the hurricane, this is newt line. it may be right along the coast of keeb a acuba, and that's gre florida because it won't regenerate quickly, and by the time it gets to florida, it's extreme warm water favorable conditions, so that's why the hurricane is only going 50 to 60 miles an hour and no longer has it as a hurricane. the general theme is a south to north path, kind of parallel to florida or right over the top of florida.

jose, the more that we look at this thing, it barely even looks like a tropical storm now. don't be surprised if you wake up tomorrow morning and we're no longer tracking erika. things look a lot better today than yesterday, or even two days before that when we thought we would have a big storm in florida. we'll take it. >> i'll see you tomorrow with the latest weather forecast at the hurricane center. let's head out to miami beach with the weather channel's mike seidel. mike, how is it out there? it's been looking horrible the last few days. you're looking pretty good right now. >> thanks, jose. beautiful morning right now. we had storms off the coast. we actually had a water spout about an hour ago. now the sun is beating down, there's already any wind, and it will be your quintessential august day. the official forecast brings it

in as a tropical storm sunday and monday if it can survive that trek over the peak of duarte. that's heightest peak in tthe h dominican republic. people are out there buying their bottled water. we'll wait and see. they need rain here. they're in a pretty significant drought in the southern half of the state. hopefully we'll at least get rain out of it on sunday, monday and tuesday. hoping for the best, some rainfall, and hoping we won't have to deal with much in the wind department across the state. again, the next 12 to 18 hours as it goes across hispaniola. that's the key whether it gets ripped to shreds or even has time to strengthen as it hits florida. >> the key is whether it will get to the lake okeechobee area which is the important source of our water. >> at this point, we expect, at

the minimum, to have a pretty decent rain event sunday, monday and tuesday, accentuating the rain we've had already. we've had about 6 inches at the airport, but for the year, miami is still down a foot of rain. part of the area is in an exceptional drought. tampa, as you know, had significant flooding early in the summer. they don't really need any more rain, but we'll have to see how this thing holds together. even if it falls apart, i'm pretty confident we'll have more in the way of just the typical average summertime thunderstorms here in south florida. so we're out here now throwing on the sun sauce for the time being, though. >> that's right. welcome to miami beach. we love having you here. thanks, mike. good seeing you. >> take care. now to an exclusive new detail about the killer who gunned down two young journalists live on tv. msnbc has been showing the

inside of his apartment. he has his own picture on the refrigerator. this is the candlelight vigil last night for reporter alison parker and cameraman adam. >> we're learning more about the killer. what was found in his rental car, there were a number of items that looked like he was actually going to run, including things like stamped letters, multiple rounds of ammunition, a wig, a shawl, and from those documents from police, we've seen that he actually sent a text message to a friend saying he had done something stupid. we're also learning that he had a history of angry outbursts, not only here at this affiliate but at previous affiliates where

he worked. he was fired here two years ago, and according to the general manager here, there was an incident that day. they had to call the police in to get him out of the office. and on his way out, he threw a wooden cross at the news director and told him, you'll need this. apparently adam ward was also filming this as it went down, and as flanagan was walking out, he hurled insults at ward and even flipped off the camera. a number of things that people wonder if maybe they should have given some people an idea of just how dangerous he was, but nobody could have predicted he was going to do what he did. jose? >> stephanie goss, thank you very much. we just got this word from the associated press in virginia. the affiliates say the victims, alison parker and adam ward, were both shot in the head. the cause of death is listed as homicide. coming up, president george w. bush who will speak live in new orleans to mark the ternth

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now we continue with coverage of the day's political news. republican jeb bush appeared in a town hall in virginia this morning. we're waiting now for his brother, former president george w. bush, to speak in new orleans. there you see him arriving. he'll be speaking at the top of the hour to mark the 10th year since the landfall of hurricane katrina. we'll show you new video this morning as we get some pictures of him there in new orleans. with me this morning in my miami bureau is a former u.s. treasurer under president george w. bush.

it's good seeing you. thanks for being here. >> glad to be here. >> fthe former president in new orleans, you know he's been criticized for his reaction with the former governor. how do you see this? >> he did what he was supposed to do when he was asked to do it. ever since, things have changed dramatically. because now people, the mayor, the governor of the states, do not wait for the actual incident to take place. they request help before it even gets there. but prior to katrina, the mayor had to request help from the state and then the state had to request help from the federal government. that has changed, thankfully, because of katrina. >> now, the unfortunate situation is that nearly 2,000 people had to lose their lives, hundreds of thousands were displaced. there is a -- leadership does include sometimes doing things that are unexpected and doing things for the greater good

whether it's what is expected or not. i think we can all agree that there was a lack of leadership, federal, state and local. >> it was all. it was all into one. it was like the perfect storm, literally, no pun intended. but regardless of that, i think people realize and understand that the president cared deeply about every single american. and it hurt him to see the devastation. >> i think there was much more that could have been done on all sides. >> on all sides. >> i want to talk to you, bring you back to a little bit of the 2016 politics. right now, if you look at donald trump in the republican party, he's got -- between him and dr. carson, almost 40% of the support of the republican voters so far. what is -- you're the first u.s. treasurer ever to be born outside of the united states. you were born in mexico city, right? >> mexico city, yes. >> when you see what's going on, what do you see within your own

party? >> regrettably, and i can tell you this, my blood gets boiling right away, because donald trump is not even a republican. he's not even a conservative. he entered this race at the insistence of bill clinton, his very good friend. so for him to come in and basically take a position within the party that doesn't belong to him, he didn't earn that position. >> he's got almost 30% of support. >> you know what, jose, what is really amazing to me is that this is not a reality show. he is used to that. he is so media grabbing, he's so into the attention getting. he's kardashians on steroids. the media has responded accordingly. and what you have there now in all the polls, it's a function of name recognition. >> he's got almost 30% of support of your political party, at least in prit marthe primary.

not yet held, but 30%. he has been so successful in bringing the issue of immigration and the undocumented population. he says that every single one of the people that are here undocumented must be deported first. >> yes. something called a constitution gets in the way. this is bombastic, this is so everybody covers that, but it is unrealistic. it is as unrealistic as it is achievable. it cannot be achieved. there is something called due process. you cannot just deport people without the due process. if we're going to spend billions and billions of dollars to try to deport u.s. citizens because he wants to keep the families intact, this is crazy. this is absolutely nonsense. it may appeal to some people, but there are 77% of people not in his court. he may have 30%, but 77% are not. >> what do you say to the people who say -- well, as mr. trump

told me in laredo as i tried to ask him a question. he said, you're just talking about the undocumented and those are the only people that would be affected. >> not if he tries to deport entire families. >> why should someone like you, as an american citizen, why should you care what he is saying about the undocumented? >> because they're part of me, too. i was born in mexico. i came to this great country, the greatest, most generous country in the world. and i've been able to achieve way beyond what i expected. this is the greatest country in the world. we don't need a donald trump. he doesn't have a story like i do. you know, when he got $100 milli million, okay, so he became a billionaire. but he was already a millionaire when he was born. give me a break. he's not going to tell me about this country, not him. and not a q uas i-republican.

>> thank you very much, treasurer of the united states. your signature is still on a lot of those bills running around. thank you for being with me this morning. big meetings about to begin with the presidential candidates in minneapolis. we'll learn new details about the battle over delegates in the nominating process. kristin welker, what are you learning? >> reporter: jose, good morning to you. secretary clinton's goal is to make the case here that she is the strongest candidate in the general election. her campaign today touting the fact that it has secured commitments for more than 440 superdelegates. that is more than 50% of those needed, just to put it into a broader context. and, of course, the main goal with that, jose, is to send a strong message with vice president biden that secretary clinton is going to be tough to beat. of course, a lot of the buzz here is about vice president biden. is he going to get into this

race? the general consensus seems to be the more the measureirrier, f he gets in, he will make secretary clinton stronger. but people say, wait a minute. if secretary clinton turns around on this e-mail issue, it would be harder for vice president biden to make that case. he has been holding high-level meetings, however, he hasn't laid the practical groundwork that you would expect to see at this time for someone considering a serious candidacy. now, vice president biden by his own admission says he's undecided. he's still very much grieving the loss of his son beau. i am told by those close to him that a decision is still several weeks away. jose? >> thank you very much. the markets still going down this week? .

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four people have been arrested in connection with their deaths. the war in syria has left a record number of migrants attempting to cross to europe this year. unrest in that country has had people fleeing to italy and other places. also from wall street, stocks lowered. a wild week for the market. the dow is down 55. cnbc's mandy drury is here. mandy, good morning. >> good morning, jose. these are the kind of moves we used to get every single day, it's just this week has been a bit out of the ordinary. a bit of a cooldown was not unexpected. but the number to watch today is on the dow, 16,516. so if we do get to that or below

it, we will be back in corruption. what we got today was some data consumer spending which gained moderately in july. we saw wages and salaries jump there in eight months. good news, right? regardless of all of that, apple president said at jackson hole today that he does not see a case for raising rates this year unless there was a major change in the economic outlook, and i think what's really important about another piece of data we got today, jose, is the consumer sentiment, because that was for august, and that number fell, and so that really does reflect perhaps how consumers are feeling about all that market turmoil we've been in the middle of over the past month. so that is, of course, the most important number, not the consumer spending which was for july, so backward looking. lastly, apple has confirmed an event for september 9. a lot of rumors out there, as always, about the kind of products we could get from apple.

some say there may be a next generation iphone, and you know what, jose, we need a good catalyst for this stock. remember early in this week, it actually moved into bare market territory. it's recovered somewhat since then, but nevertheless, it's down about 15 over the past three months. a lot of concerns about its exposure to china and concerns about people not buying iphones and ipads as much as they used to. let's see what we get on october 29. that's the day. still ahead, we're on verdict watch in the rape trial that allegedly took place at a prestigious new england prep school. plus the shooting death of a virginia reporter and cameraman raises the question, how can companies keep workers safe from a disgruntled employee? we have new details ahead on "the rundown." or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web.

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owen lubrie accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at the prep school last year. let's talk about what the jury is looking at. >> i think they're looking much more and thinking much more about her testimony than his. he's obviously a bright guy, and in some ways the testimony. no one thinks he has some modest motive to lie. >> she's just 15 years old. >> 15 years old, but she told a nurse a few days later it had been consensual, friendly messages to the defendant after the encounter. those are some of the things i think the jury is focused on. >> the defense says he never actually had sex with her, correct? >> that's the defense, and it's

important because she's underage. so even if it was consensual, it would still be a crime if, in fact, they had sex. it's a misdemeanor if it's consensual. >> why is it a misdemeanor if it's consensual with a minor? >> because they have laws called romeo and juliet. in this case if there is a three-year difference it can be treated as a misdemeanor. if the defendant was in his 20s, it would have been a serious felony. we don't know what the jury is thinking. there is a lot of evidence to show there was more than just contact and kissing. i think it will be much tougher to avoid a conviction on what we would call the consensual sex charges. >> let's say they do find him guilty, the option is, i guess, misdemeanor versus -- >> the consensual assault, that's a 20-year prison sentence, potentially. he could lose a major portion of

his life. >> if it's a misdemeanor, what would that be? >> typically it's a matter of months rather than years if he's sentenced to prison. and probably not have to be registered as a sexual offender. this is a very, very close case. >> there is also the possibility of acquittal. the defense needs to recognize, he couldn't put the victim on trial but to aim for complete acquittal. i think he was trying to put the school on trial saying, hey, something bad happened that night. we know you don't blame the victim here but you don't have to take a young man with all promising hope for his future. talk to me after the verdict unless it is full acquittal. what are the possibilities of appeal? >> this is going to be a very difficult case to have a successful appeal on.

>> a difficult appeal. >> difficult appeal. because at the end of the day, the jury is entitled to weigh the evidence, her account versus his account. once they decide that, they can't disturb that. some people describe this kind of case as a he said versus a she said, but if a jury believes what she said, the he part of it usually winds up in jail. >> and if it is conviction, it could be years or maybe even months. >> there is a dramatic, dramatic difference in possible outcomes here. >> thank you for your time. we have new developments in the deadly shooting of those two young journalists live on television. just a short time ago, virginia officials revealed that reporter alison parker and cameraman adam ward were both shot in the head. the official cause of death now is listed as a homicide. now, they were shot and killed by vester lee flanagan, a coworker who was fired from the station two years ago. these are videos we have from

within lee's apartment. as you can see, there is not a lot in it. he's got that computer, he's got just a couple sofas in that small dining room area. this is an apartment i'm told is about $600 a month. the only pictures we can see in this video is pictures of himself that he kept in the refrigerator and kitchen, and there you see a part of the bedroom. the station's general manager is shedding more light about the day flanagan was let go. >> he reacted angrily, telling them he would tell the police and they would make a stink and it would make headlines. on the way out he handed a wooden cross to the news director, who was at that time dan denison, and he said, you'll need this. >> we're joined now by peter martin, ceo, matt.

thanks for being with me. let's talk about this very troubling case. by all accounts, flanagan was difficult to work with. what can companies do when they see that they have someone like that and they let him go? what are the things we can do to protect our workers? >> these situations are very broad, and it's difficult to address them from a one stop, one size fits all type of response. because at any time within the relationship in the workplace, there can be violence. it's not necessarily after the person is let go. what a company needs to do is they need to have a very precise program in process for detaching employees. you're not going to be able to stop the mental illness, you're not going to be able to stop the deterioration of the individual. what you can do, you want to make sure the relationship when it departs is not contentious, and therefore, the workplace becomes a target. it seems as though in this workplace where he was last employed, they did everything they could. they asked him to go into

counseling. they talked to him. even though, you know, it seems pretty clear that at the end there, he was really troubling to a lot of people. >> absolutely. and what you notice in this particular case, there was a significant time between when he left the business and the time this happened. >> two years. >> absolutely. in this case what we recommend is pure monitoring of these individuals. >> by whom? >> there are individuals out there. it's relatively inexpensive. if you look at his profile, it was slow mental deterioration that was being posted and it was shown. >> you're saying there are things -- yesterday i was having a conversation on twitter with someone who was saying, well, if you're in a company and you see things that are happening with an employee who is problematic, who can you help? who can you talk to? what third party is there that can help after he's gone? >> there are some great companies out there. >> what do they do?

>> phd psychologists. what they do is they become engaged in the process. the first thing they do is diagnose an issue. all different types of mental illness are dealt with differently and you need to understand what it is you're dealing with. is there a pry probability of violence coming? then they engage the individual and talk to them about what the issues are. >> even after he's gone from the company. >> absolutely. absolutely. if that individual is still focusing anger and angst towards the organization. there is an opportunity to try to defuse that situation and move that individual off and into his own future and leave that company alone. >> thank you. very interesting perspective. i appreciate your time. moving to new orleans where residents are remembering hurricane katrina which hit the area exactly ten years from this weekend. we talk to a couple who lived through the devastation. thank you for being with me. how are you guys? >> good. good morning. >> you lost a lot of people

close to you in the hurricane. tell us about your experiences of hurricane katrina. >> well, it was a nightmare for me because in the beginning, we didn't think the storm was going to be as bad as it was. well, we wasn't expecting the levees to actually blow. so many of my relatives, they had cards that could only get them from point a to point b, like to the job, other family members' houses, to church. they couldn't stay on the highway. they were on the highway like 24 hours, 18 hours, and the cars broke down, so many of them had to get out of their cars, walk from the bridge and find shelter. because of that, when the levees broke, many of them did not get out safely. and the others that did, they were stuck in the city for five days with little children, no food, no water, just watching the horrors of the city. i myself was in dallas, and i had some family members come there. i had a total of 29 people,

family and friends, come to my house. but it's just been a nightmare, and we still are not in our home, we're still grieving losses, we still haven't made contact with a lot of family members in the last ten years. >> that's just amazing. seth, is that your similar experience to 10 years ago? >> well, of course, 10 years ago, it was just, you know, tragic. five days just waiting on the federal government, the local and state government to do something, you know, folks just suffering inside of the superdome and the convention center. you know, for this to be in the united states and then 10 years later, you're still not whole from billions and billions of dollars pouring in and not reaching the people, that's the real tragedy. it's not hurricane katrina, it was the storm after hurricane katrina. >> mia, talk to me about that,

because if folks go to new orleans and see a huge influx of tourism in the last couple years, when people go to new orleans, what they see is the spruced-up areas where you're at, and they think everything is fine and dandy. but you're saying it needs a lot more work here. >> if you go down a couple blocks and take a few turns, you'll see it looks like katrina hit yesterday in many areas, especially the neighborhood that i grew up in. you'll see a lot of schools, you know, that are still closed down. you'll see poverty everywhere. you'll just see it. it's not hard to find. but if you're in, like, the quarters and certain other areas that is spruced up, you hear the music, you see the festive spirits from the people, but just a couple blocks down, it is disaster. >> thank you both for being with me. i really appreciate your time. >> they lost them as well as the

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today. good morning to you. dave, let's start with you. what does it say to you that we're hearing more and more of this type of personal attack -- i should say an attack personally directed at donald trump from jeb bush? >> you know, i don't think jeb bush is ever going to win that fight with donald trump, frankly. i just did a little reporting on this last week talking to the campaigns about how to deal with donald trump, and there was initial reaction last month to go at him. you got to challenge him. you saw that from rick perry, lindsey graham, rand paul tried it in the first debate, and it really didn't work for these guys. and jeb bush, i think, got sucked into it last week. i think you've got a lot of donors worried about his energy level, worried about his flailing status in the polls, so he tried to hit back. but frankly he seemed uncomfortable in doing so, so you have some people in the party saying, look, you've got -- you've got to show some restraint here. stay on your message.

don't let trump pull you into his game because you're never going to be able to win a verbal smackdown against donald trump. >> meanwhile, hillary clinton has been criticizing republicans on women's health, but she's not taking those attacks a step further. listen to these. >> extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states yet they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america! we're going forward, we're not going back! >> molly, is this a new line of attack from hillary clinton? >> it was new to me. a lot of republicans saying, including jeb bush, they were

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good morning, i'm tamron hall. this is "news nation." we're following a few developing stories this hour. first up, out of new orleans where former president george bush is visiting to mark the 10-year anniversary of hurricane katrina. president bush is about to speak at warren easton high school. the former president also spoke there on katrina's first anniversary. the school was actually rebuilt with the help of laura bush's foundation, and we will bring you president bush's comments a day after, of course, the big trip made by president obama there yesterday. so we will follow that for you. we're also following breaking weather news regarding tropical storm erika. now we know at least 25 people are dead and the number is sadly expected to increase after the

storm hit the caribbean island of dominica. according to local officials, more than a foot of rain flooded that small island causing mudslides that brought down buildings and destroyed bridges as well as stretches of roads wiped out. right now the tropical storm is just south of the dominican republic with 50-mile-per-hour winds. and folorida governor rick scot has declared a state of emergency in preparation for tropical storm erika. we're going to track the storm with you first, bill. >> the new update from the national hurricane center, first, puerto rico has been spared unlike the island of dominica which went through with nearly a foot of rain. it can bring big problems with rainfall, not with winds. the storm itself is going to go right over the high mountainous terrain of the